Andrew Hoggard is the new Vice President of Federated Farmers. The Country's Jamie Mackay rang Hoggard today not only to congratulate him on this achievement but also to tell him the far more important news that The Country host is a better rugby player than Dom George.
Then Jamie asks Andrew if he's biding his time until he can usurp the new Federated Farmers President Katie Milne...
Finally Jamie and Andrew discuss whether a desire for change lead the Feds to choose Milne over Anders Crofoot. Mackay also wants to know if the Federated Farmers is moving from the "sheep and beef guys" to "the dairy guys."
Andrew says those kind of divisions need to stop as "we're all farmers". He says his and Katie Milne's focus will be bridging the urban/rural divide.
Have a listen to the full interview in the audio clip above.